muslim heaven LD

I find islamic heaven to be materialistic, prideful, and Ignorant of the concept of a Spiritual kingdom. Feel free to reply or share your thoughts!


Islamic "paradise" (heaven) is a picture made to appeal to those men of the area of Suadi Arabia (as well as poverty stricken people) by promising things they didnt have yet would have admired (just another method of muhammad recruiting terrorists for his army and personal followers). Its discription is based on CARNAL Lusts and sounds like a desert mans Wishlist. Flesh cant inherite the kingdom of G-d so unless muhammad went extremely metaphoric in his discription I'm simpley Not Interested in his "paradise". Keep in mind that a desert is extremly hot in the day and cold at night and not a fruitful location. So how does muhammad describe his (make believe) paradise?
Muslims are told (Surah 56:10-40) that in heaven they will be given silk clothing :), nice furniture :), no extreme hot or cold :D, they will be given shade, trees will bring fruits to them, silver cups, WISHES granted to you :D (just in case muhammds wish list doesnt appeal to u!), and lets dont forget the many boy servants that dont age and dont bleed. What will i possiblly need all these boy servants for? Rivers (Surah 44:51-53) of milk, honey and great tasting wine (now drinking wine is all good). This heaven is all about you and your carnal based lusts, Not G-d. We have all heard of the 72 house with the 72 beds with the 72 virgins (thats alot of virgins). Sorry to break it to caranl muslims but heaven isnt a place for Sex. Its much greater than Sex and all that enter in shall be One, we wont need servant boys or virgins.

NOTICE: your will is the Focuss- not God's will
Continuation

Wine, 300 young boys (slaves/servants) :( keep in mind that muhammad sucked the tongue of a young boy so whats behind this reward??? BTW these boys have everlasting youth :( Keep in mind Muhammad had a thing for kids Example- Aisha. Not only that but the boys are said to look as pearls, Why so cute??? BOYS? If you are into pretty boys this is the cult for you!

"And there shall wait on them [the Muslim men] young boys of their own, as fair as virgin pearls." (Quran 52:24)..

56:17 There wait on them immortal youths,..


THE MATH

72 mansions with 72 homes with 72 sheets on 72 beds with 72 virgins that never lose their virginity. Mohammed said, “The person who participates in (Holy Battles) in Allah's cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostle, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to paradise (if he is killed).” (Al Bukhari vol. 1:35.)
72 x72= 5184 x 72= 373248 x 72= 26,873,856 Virgins !!! - This is the number that most scolars agree on according to the math, yet it is more common place to say you will have sex with 72 virgins at a time. Giving unspiritual people the claim they will get 26,873,856 virgins when they go to hell if they fight for you is just good buisness. Welcome to the ideology of muslim jihad!

In islam woman are a pocession. Look at how islam encouraged slavery. When it comes to witnesses, it takes 2 women to equal one man. 2 Men are needed to be a witness. Without men it takes 4 women, with one man it takes 2 women.(al-Nisa’ 4:34/ Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 1/490 / al-Baqarah 2:282)

Women arent equal in islam.
Al Bukhari

Mohammed asked some women, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half that of a man?" The women said, "yes," He said, "This is because of the deficiency of the woman's mind. " Vol. 3:826
Mohammed said, "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers are women. " Vol. 1:28, 301; Vol. 2:161; Vol. 7:124
Mohammed said, "After me I have not left any affliction more harmful to men than women." Vol. 7:33
Mohammed said, "The person who participates in (Holy battles) in Allah's cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostle, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to paradise (if he is killed). " Vol. 1:35

Athiest getting a kick out of muslim discription of life after death (the grave)!
http://youtu.be/9vr7UBLUKSk too funny

TAQIYYA (deception islam) LD

islam teaches it is okay to Lie to deceive non muslims, and to lie to loved ones to avoid harsh truths. This is called TAQIYYA (ta-key-yah) in islam. To lie to protect islam.
Shia muslims believe those who dont practice taqiyya (decite) dont have faith.
islam claims the shield of allah is Taqiyya (deception) thus use lies for protection.
>* Jn.8:44 *< *Satan is the father of lies
Eph.4:25

According to quran islamic god (allah) is the best deciever.

(On page 247), Tabbarah stated: "Lying is not always bad, to be sure; there are times when telling a lie is more profitable and better for the general welfare, and for the settlement of conciliation among people, than telling the truth. To this effect, the Prophet says: 'He is not a false person who (through lies) settles conciliation among people, supports good or says what is good." Reasons in the Hadith (emphasized by mohammed-)

1) For reconciliation among people. (Prov.9:8 / Ecc.7:5 / Lk.17:3)
2) In war.
3) Amongst spouses, to keep peace in the family. (What other occassions are there???)

Justifications/ principles of Islam that will justify lying in situations where they sense the need to do so. 1)War is deception. 2)The necessities justify the forbidden.
General standard) If faced by two evils, choose the lesser of the two. "justify the forbidden"

This is the Pride of SATAN. Wisemen seek edification but fools dispise correction- (Prov.12:26 / Prov.3:5;1:5), Also in Christianity we have a thing we call discernment we don't seek to decieve and influtrate the enemy nor do we spread our faith by force. "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor." - 9th COMMANDMENT (8th if your catholic or lutheran)/ Ex.20:16/ Deut.5:20

_Ok 4 muslim to deny allah__ Sura 16:106 says a muslim can even deny "allah" to deceive non muslims, but an infidel will pay a price for the same.
"Any one who, after accepting faith in allah, utters Unbelief, except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty."
Obama openly claimed his Muslim belief as a young man and spoke the shahadah (oath of a muslim). The only standard of being considered muslim!! Under the concept of Takeyya (al-Taqiyya literally means: "Concealing or disguising one's beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies" ) if under the threat of force, it is legitimate for Muslims to act contrary to their faith. The following actions are acceptable: 1) Drink wine, abandon prayers, and skip fasting during Ramadan. 2) Renounce belief in Allah. 3) Kneel in homage to a deity other than Allah. 4) Utter insincere oaths. (3:28 / 28:5 / 9:29/ 5:98/ 16:106/) - such as the oath obama took for office!

Sura 3:28 The believers never ally themselves with the disbelievers, instead of the believers. Whoever does this is exiled from GOD. Exempted are those who are forced to do this to avoid persecution. GOD alerts you that you shall reverence Him alone. To GOD is the ultimate destiny.

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The word for deception/deceiver/scheme is makr. The lexical sources define the term as:

Thus, the quran unashamedly calls muhammad’s god the best liar and deceiver of them all! It even dares to say that ALL deception belongs completely to allah:

And verily, those before them did deceive/scheme (makara), but all deception/scheming is allah's (falillahi al-makru). He knows what every person earns, and the disbelievers will know who gets the good end. allah best deciever Sura. 13:42 (3:54/8:30/* 7:99/ 27:50)

Are they then secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi)? None deemeth himself secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish. S. 7:99

Makra- clearly means fraud, deception
Miim-Kaf-Ra = To practice deceit or guile or circumvention, practice evasion or elusion, to plot, to exercise art or craft or cunning, act with policy, practice stratagem.
Example Suras:
perf. act. 3:54, 3:54, 7:123, 13:42, 14:46, 16:26, 16:45, 27:50, 40:45, 71:22
impf. act. 6:123, 6:123, 6:124, 8:30, 8:30, 8:30, 10:21, 12:102, 16:127, 27:70, 35:10
n.vb. 7:99, 7:99, 7:123, 10:21, 10:21, 12:31, 13:33, 13:42, 14:46, 14:46, 14:46, 27:50, 27:50, 27:51, 34:33, 35:10, 35:43, 35:43, 71:22
pcple. act. 3:54, 8:30

Some muslims like to translate it as "plot" instead of "decieve" but these verses clearly show deception. It cant be disguised with a more politically correct translation.

In fact, the Quran states that Allah actually raises wicked individuals to deceive and scheme:

Even so have we placed in every city, ringleaders of its wicked ones, to scheme therein (liyamkuroo): but only against themselves shall they scheme (yamkuroona)! and they know it not. S. 6:123
And further commands people to do evil so that he can then have a reason to destroy them!
S. 17:16

__muslims attempt to lie to you on the subject___
Muslims are told allah is the best deciever/ (Abrogated) contridiction:The Quran says: "Truly Allah guides not one who transgresses and lies." Surah 40:28. In the Hadith, Mohammed was also quoted as saying, "Be honest because honesty leads to goodness, and goodness leads to Paradise. Beware of falsehood because it leads to immorality, and immorality leads to Hell."

Surah 5:89 / Surah 2:225 / 3:28 lies can be used for the final goal is to Allah. Same area says you are not to be friends with Jews or Christians and still be in good standing with "Allah" yet it says to tell them you are their friend to guard yourself against them. Muslims are told to lie for the good of islam. Islam cant be of God if Christianity and Judaism are.

Heb.13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

James 1:13
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

____Deciet will never be a Christian tactic_____
Matt.10:14 / Proverbs 12:26 / Proverbs 13:1
2 Jn.1:10-11 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

Christians dont lie to get others to accept them as Christians. Christians dont lie to gain converts. Christians know you cant force others to embrace The true God. (The Crusaders were protecting themselves and others seeing as Romans were in the area and muslims came against them and vowed to kill those who wouldnt accept islam.) Christians have war stratigies, but do not see lies as a Christian trait. Lies are a trait of the great deciever Satan. Those who embrace such are showing fruits of the enemy of the Holy Spirit (truth).
http://youtu.be/e4-iDP4gyho
http://youtu.be/CvlvS2a2AVE
http://youtu.be/zfPbz9mQ5fw

allah leads people astray (Sura 6:39,126) he doesnt help those he leads astray (30:29) uses these people to populate hell (32:13).

James 1:13
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

YHVH encourages his sheep to aquire knowledge, and use their heads.

- Is.1:18 "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD:"
- 1 cor.2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

- Joshua 1:8
This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success

We feed our spirits with truth (The Word) and lean not unto our own understanding, Christians dont just follow self proclaimed prophets blindly, we discern fruits and compare mans words to those of YHVH to see if the stand up.
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Allah says not to ask questions. (Surah 5:101-102)
"O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. but if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, God will forgive those: for God is oft-forgiving, most Merciful.. Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith."

Real muslims are to have no respect for (hate) Christians:
- Sura 3:28 The believers never ally themselves with the disbelievers, instead of the believers. Whoever does this is exiled from GOD. Exempted are those who are forced to do this to avoid persecution. GOD alerts you that you shall reverence Him alone. To GOD is the ultimate destiny.
- Surah 5:51 O you who believe, do not take certain Jews and Christians as allies; these are allies of one another. Those among you who ally themselves with these belong with them. GOD does not guide the transgressors.
- Sura 6:1 Praise be to Allah, Who hath created the heavens and the earth, and hath appointed darkness and light. Yet those who disbelieve ascribe rivals unto their Lord.

No taqiyya in islam? Blog by David Wood

can u spot the leaven?

This area is a place where we can use the SWORD (WORD) of the LORD as a weapon to exspose darkness, deception and false teachings!

Bible contradictions??? Many people interested in The WORD have honest questions. Questions often times spark much growth. We are exspected to find where all scriptures agree on a subject, to study for ourselves approved instead of following tradtions, rationalizations and doctrines of men (leaning on our own understandings).

We arent called to entertain fruitless debate. Yet we shouldN'T sit by while those who are interested in the living bread get fed leaven

2 Jn.1:10-11 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
2 Tim.2:23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

Prov.17:14 The beginning of strife is as when one letteth out water: therefore leave off contention, before it be meddled with. ("contention"- reeb- a contest (personal or legal): - + adversary, cause, chiding, contend (-tion), controversy, multitude [from the margin], pleading, strife, strive (-ing), suit.)

/ 1 Tim.6:4/ Jas.3:14-16/ Gal.5:19-21/ 1 Cor.3:3/ 2 Cor.12:19-20/ Prov.26:20/

Phi.2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves ("vainglory" - kenodoxia- empty glorying, that is, self conceit: - vain-glory.)

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We as believers have all met those who seek to rationalize and justify any and everything within their own minds.

This thread is set aside to help pass along evidence and documentation that can be used in such discussions. I do not suggest fruitless debates but often times we find ourselves in places where there are those who are interested and those who mock The WORD.
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What is with the moon image at the top of muslim mosques? All prophacy of HaSatan is in months (moons) The Moon is disguised as a source of light just as Satan and his ministers are. The moon only reflects (perverts) light just like quran hijacks names and info from Tanakh, Talmud, Gospels, Gnostics and even hindu sorces and comes up with a new age religion (the ideology of one sick man). The captial of Islam use to be a pagon captial. Islam has always been about going in and destroying civilizations while taking what it will from them and claiming their lands.


Paul spoke on so many layers that many lack enough understanding to see how all these layers are in harmony throughout the Word.

If one has come across any claims of contractions that they want to discuss, Please post them here so we can put the claims to rest together!

Egyptians were given (symbols of) knowledge by Enoch. The latter started to worship the synbols themselves. This is documented in a couple of threads on this site (F.N.C.).

Some like to claim that Christianity branched off from egytian mythology. This short flim will help you to exspose such falsehoods.

The above video shows a list of what they call the 12 tribes yet these are the Territories (inheritance) rather than the Tribes. Thats why you have no mention of the tribe of Levi and have Joseph branched into two with Ephraim and Mannasseh, a common misunderstanding of the tribes. sometimes you get Joseph branched off into two And mention of Levi making 13 other times you get what we see here rather than just the 12 desendants of Israel (Jacob).
There is an 8 part playlist that debunks these claims as well:
1- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuyIxKrw2Yk
2- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNrM9hQg7es
3- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8dYp5KBl-k
4- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KokBDDQykRM
5- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVg-TAmbIOU
6- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WAHdKD2uX4
7- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU3FoQPmGBc
8- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU0mUFE-J7w
...

BEWARE OF WHO YOU LET DO YOUR TRANSLATING. Note this video, where one holds up the serpents ways above properly dividing the WORD of The LORD. Can you spot the deception?

WHY does the speaker Assume that what was told 2 Adam was the same exact as what was told 2 eve (Gen.2:16-17/Gen.3:1-5)??? Eve was created LATER (Gen.2:21-23)! and "touch" (naga- 1 layer of context- euphemistically, to lie with a Woman)/ 2 Cor.11:3 beguiled (exapataō - wholly seduce) lean not un2 ur own understanding where do all scriptures agree? Beware who u let do your translating. Serpent called The LORD a liar. They Did die in the same day (2 Pet.3:9) only by the Passover sacrifice (Yeshua) does 1 overcome this spiritually, phy. none live to see the age of 1,000

http://youtu.be/ktBJl8XStds

Also suggest post: Mistranslations

Rule of altering in islam /LD

According to the rule of replacement theology in islam, which mohammad says is the proper way to interprete the Quran (and muslim sources)- islam does promote terror, deception (lies) and so many un-Godly things.
***The text are in video form located in the following three links!

Abrogation- to repeal, annulment, the act of cancelling; calling off some arrangement, the act of making something legally void, recall, the act (by someone having the authority) of annulling something previously done; "the revocation of a law"

1st stage- Submissive
2nd stage- Defensive
3rd stage- Aggresive

Islam is to be learned and taught in these stages. New comers and strangers to islam are first taught the obsolete version of islam. This is a part of the deception (al taqiyya) in islam. Sadly once you take the vow of a muslim (the shahadah) to leave islam is to take on a death sentance according to islamic law. So by the time you graduate to see you have been properly decieved of what islam stands for you have also been preconditioned to acceptance and even commanded not to ask questions:
"O ye who believe! Ask Not Questions about things which if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith." (Surah 5:101-102). " Yes they asked about things that they found wrong with islam, and later woke up! In the true Abrahamic Faith questions are encouraged for spiritual GROWTH!(Is.1:18/ Proverbs 25:2/ Deut.29:29/ Jas.1:5/ Ecc.7:25/ Ecc.1:13/ Proverbs 1:7...)!


According to Mohammad when the quran contridicts itself then the later verse abrogates the prior one! This shows those who follow the true (Word) Prophets and Apostels of God that mohammad isNt a prophet of God and that islam is False!

Heb.13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

_____Documentation_________
Muslims pointing to Islamic sources to support terror!

I will use the layout of Nadal Malik Hasan to show the rule of abrogation. Hasan happens to be the one who shot up the U.S. military base where he served (fort hood). Materials were recovered from his computer (office/ and home) that showed communication between him and Anwar al-Awlaki

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf_nNOfU6-M&feature=related - Pt.1

PROGRESSIVE REVELATION
Verses were revealed as situations and events presented themselves.
Hadiths -Sira- Asbab nasool/ aids in context and order (helps to show order).
* RULE OF ABROGATION
Which revelation should we embrace???
Surah 2:106 None of our revelations do we abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but we substitute something better or simular: Knowest thou not that Allah hath power overall things?
Ah the better one i see (LoL)
Surah 16:101 When we substitute one revelation for another, and Allah knows best what he reveals (in stages), they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not.

Obviously muslims were already being mocked for constantly changing their rules, which Mohammad did over and over to appease those around him and himself.

CONCEPT OF COMPLETE SUBMISSION
O you who believe enter into islam completely, whole heartedly - Sura 2:208

muslims are to show complete obediance 9to be a Slave of allah. Islam means submission/ Salam means peace. Muslims cant say well I'm moderate and others are extreme muslims. They are to obey reguardless of what they want even if it means killing themselves and others.

Surah 2:256 "there is no complusion in religion"- Abrogated

Example given by hasan
Abraham-(Gold standard) "was indeed a model", devoutly obedient -Surah 16:120 verily Abraham was without doubt, forbearing- Surah 11:75, allah took him as an intimate friend- Surah 4:125
(Muslim sources use, take away and add to Jewish and Christian Sources)
Examples of the perversion (from Gen.22:8-12) as we continue with Hasans layout:
Sura 37:102
And when he attained to working with him, he said: O my son! surely I have seen in a dream that I should sacrifice you... He said: O my father! do what you are commanded; if Allahplease, you will find me of the patient ones.
37:106
Most surely this is a manifest trial
37:108
And we perpetuated (praise) to him among the later generations
37:109 Peace be on Abraham
110 Thus do we reward the doers of good
111 Surely he was oneof Our believing sevants

* Notice the muslim source differs in the area where Abraham comforted his son be telling him that God would provide a lamb as if the Spirit was speaking through him Gen.22:7-8. Abraham knew God was just and leaned on what he knew to be true. Yet Islam looks at this area in a devilish way. Notice this layout doesnt mention the context of Gen.22:12-13 where Abraham was stopped and a lamb was provided! (Jn.8:44) Notice the context islam is stressing instead?

Sura 2:216 - Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not. (very satanic verse/ you dont have to like the ways of the devil that seem to go against your very hearts just submit)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyGoTZPNwRI&feature=related Pt.2

LACK OF SUBMISSION

Sura 2:65 And certainly you have known those among you who exceeded the limits of the Sabbath, so We said to them: Be as apes, despised and hated
Sura 5:60 Say shall I inform you of (him who is) worse than this in retribulation from allah? (Worse is he) whom allah has cursed and brought His wrath upon, and of whom he made apes and swine
Sura 7:166 Therefore when they revoltingly persisted in what they had benn forbidden: We said to them: Be (as) apes dispised and hated.
(personaly i have nothing against apes)

REWARDS

76:12 And their recompense shall be paradice, and silken garments, because they were patient.
76:13 Reclining therein on raised thrones, they will see there neither the excessive heat of the sun, not the excessive bitter cold, 14 And the shade thereof is close upon them, and the branches of fruit thereof will hand low within their reach. 15 and amongst them will be passed round vesselsof silver and cups of crystal
47:15
The discription of paradice which the pious have been promised (is that) in it are rivers of water that taste and smell of which are not changed, rivers of milk of which the taste never changes, rivers of wine delicious to those who drink, and rivers of clarified honey (clear and pure) therein for them is every kind of fruit, and forgiveness from their Lord...

PUNISHMENT VERSES

8:50 And if you could see when the angels take away the souls of those who disbelieve (at death): they smite their faces and their backs, and saying taste the punishment of blazing fire.
44:43 Verily the tree of Zaqqum 44 will be the food of sinners 45 Like boiling oil it will boil in the bellies, 46 Like the boiling of scalding water 47 (it will be said) Seize him and drag him into the midst of blazing fire 48 Then pour over his head the tourments of boiling water 49 Taste you this verily you were pretending to be the mighty the generous 50 Verily this is that whereof you use to doubt 56 Surely, those who disbelieved in Our ayat (verses, signs ,ect) we shall burn them in fire As often as their skins are roasted through We shall change them for their skins that they may taste the punishment. Truely allah is Ever most powerful, all wise

* EXAMPLE OF JIHAD RULE OF ABROGATION*

* In Mecca Muslims were not permitted to defend themselves (fight). their only job was to deliver the message (Peaceful verses)
* Emigration to Medina:self defense wa allowed
* Then Offensive fighting was allowed
* Later verses abrogated former/ peaceful verses no londer apply
* Indeed at one point Islamic empires spanned from Morocco/ spain to the Border of India/ china

DEFENSIVE VERSES

* permission (to fight) is given to those (believers) who are fought against, because they have been wronged: and surely, allah is able to give them victory - Sura 22:39
* those who have been exspelled from their homes unjustly only because they said: Our Lord is allah, verily allah will help those who help his (cause). Truely , allah is all strong. all mighty - 22:40
(looks to me like allah needs serious help)
* 60:8 allah forbids you not with reguard to those whofight you for (your) faith nor drive you from your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them:for allah loveth those who are just.
* Fight in the cause of allah those who fight you but do not transgress the limits for allah loveth not transgressors 2:190
* but if they cease, allah is forgiving most merciful 2:192

THE VERSE OF THE SWORD - Notice the order? The former was Abrogated

So when the Sacred months have passed, then fight the Mushrikin wherever you find them, and capture them, and lie and wait for them in each and every ambush. but if they repent and perform the Salah, and give the Zakah, then leave their way free. Verily, allahis forgiving and merciful 9:5
(if they become muslims)

Sahih Muslim 1:53 I have been commaned to fight the people until they testify that there is no other deity worthy of worship except allah AND that mohammad is the messenger of allah establish the prayer and pay the Zakah

OFFENSIVE JIHAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9:29 Fight (Kill) those who do not believein allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what allah and his messenger have prohibited, not follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the book, until they pay the taxin acknowledgement of superiority and are in a state of subjection
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued"
(nations and belief systems that are not islamic are open tragets)


33. Allah is He Who sent His Messenger (blessings and peace be upon him) with guidance and Din (Religion) of Truth to make him (the Messenger) dominant over every (other exponent of) Din (Religion) though much to the dislike of polytheists.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpvJQURkyI Pt.3

OFFENSIVE ISLAM of the future (current state)

Al-Bukhaari 2222 and Sahih muslim 155 tHe messenger of allah said By the one in whose hand is my soul, soon the son of maryam will descend among you as a just judge. He will break the cross, kill the pigs and abolish the jizyah and money will become abundant until no one will accept it
(killing all Jews and Christians)


DIFFERENT PATHS TO HEAVEN

2:62 surely those who believe and those who are Jews and the Christiansand the sabians, whoever believes in allah and the last day does good, they all have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve / strong>ABROGATED
3:85 and whosoever desires a religion other than islam it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers

CONCLUSIONS (of Hasan)
* God exspects full loyalty. promises heaven and threatens with hell.
* Muslims may be seen as moderate (compromising) but God isnt. /some muslims may claim to be moderate but islam is not/
* "I love the koran and being a muslim but dont want to live under islamic rule" Hasan is pointing out those muslims who like to pick and choose (apostate)
* Fighting to establish an Islamic state to please god, even by force, is condoned in Islam
* muslim soilders should not serve in any capacity that renders then at risk to hurting/ killing believers unjustly / reaction will vary

RECOMMENDATION (HASAN'S)
Department of defense should allow muslim soilders the option of being released as Conscientious objectors to increase trop morale and dcrease adverse events.
All muslims are Required to wage jihad, both the smaller and greater jihad.

Muhammad's Rule of Abrogation
NOTICE: muslims share Abrogated verses to trick (decieve) unknowledgeable people.
1) First stage was tolerance - that became abrogated by
2) Stratagy of defense- that became abrogated by
3) offensive stratagy. (which is in effect today and known as global jihad)
Notice how many verses are Abregated(no longer apply)!
http://www.thequran.com/Abrogations.aspx?t=2&r=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,...
Abrogation:
http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=73&;...

Qur'an 2:191: And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

3 Stages of Jihad

(peaceful, Defensive, Agressive)
Orders of revelation In this order of Revelation is how islam is to be learned taught and followed. mature muslims are therefore embracing Aggressive jihad.
http://youtu.be/Ug2XI9U5qXI

women in islam/ LD

Sura 4 (An-Nisa') verse 24 Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs

(And all married women (are forbidden unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess) of captives, even if they have husbands in the Abode of War, after ascertaining that they are not pregnant, by waiting for the lapse of one period of menstruation. (It is a decree of Allah for you) that which I have mentioned to you is unlawful in Allah's Book. (Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned) as unlawful, (so that ye seek them) marry (with your wealth) up to four wives; it is also said that this means: so that you buy with your wealth captives; and it is also said that this means: so that you should seek with your money marrying women for an agreed period of time (zawaj al-mut'ah) but the lawfulness of this practice was later abrogated, (in honest wedlock) He says: be with them as legitimate husbands, (not debauchery) not indulging in adultery without having a proper marriage. (And those of whom) after marriage (ye seek content) from whom you derive benefit, (give unto them their portions) give to them their full dowry (as a duty) as an obligation upon you from Allah to give the dowry in full. (And there is no sin for you) there is no harm for you (in what ye do by mutual agreement) in increasing or decreasing the amount of the dowry by mutual agreement (after the duty hath been done) after the first obligation to which you have aspired. (Lo! Allah is ever Knower) in relation to making lawful to you marriage for an agreed, limited period of time, (Wise) in later making this practice unlawful; it is also said that this means: Allah is ever Knower of your compulsion for marriage for an agreed, limited period of time, Wise in making such marriage unlawful.
This is called Mutta. Its nothing less than religious prostitution. You pay a woman to agree on a set amount of time for you to be joined together as husband and wife (temporary relations). Just a way to condone one night stands (for money). Not all sects of islam accept mutta. Sunni muslims say it isnt for today Shia say it is.
So muslims:
1) can have 4 wives
2) can engage in religious prostitution
3) can beat their wives
4) can get away with rape of women (seeing as a womans testimony is half that of a man she better have another witness)
5) are told that women have half the inteligence of men
6) are told that women make up the majority of those in hell

http://quran.al-islam.com/Targama/DispTargam.asp?nType=1&nSeg=0...

in many sharia states a woman isnt to leave her house without a male family member. According to sharia law a womans testimony (witness) is half that of a man. Thus a woman raped has no witness against their rapest. Even if they had a second female witness that wouldnt trump the man.
http://youtu.be/IKnAzH-2TKM

Quran verse 4:34 gives men right to strike their women if they even think their women will step out of line.

DOMESTIC VIOLENCE/ in islam

Different english translations:
Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme. Dawood^[2]

Men are in charge of women, because Allah has made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah has guarded. As for those from whom you fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High Exalted, Great. Pickthall^[3]

Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that God has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God's guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; God is All high, All great. Arberry^[4]

Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. Shakir^[5]

Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whom part you fear disloyalty and ill conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance) for Allah is Most High, Great (above you all). Ali^[6]

*****Women in islam***
Is this how muslims honestly think they should get respect and order in their marriages? Muslim women are told they have half brain (vid below), half the testimony of a man (which means if they get rapped they need at least on other witness to testify against the man), and they are told they make up the majority in hell.


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Is the quran unprotected or unaltered? (LD)

Muslims like to make alot of claims about islam without Any evidence.

Feel free to discuss the Claim that the quran is inspired and unaltered here.

How can a muslims say The Word (bible and Tanakh) of the Jews and Christians is altered and not inspired when their quran says it IS inspired?

Quran declares the Bible to be a true revelation of God and demands faith in the Bible. Sura 2:40-42,126,136,285; 3:3,71,93; 4:47,136; 5:47-51, 69,71-72; 6:91; 10:37,94; 21:7; 29:45,46; 35:31; 46:11

So when they say our sources are altered they are saying the Quran is garbage!

Sadly muslims follow one man('s ideology). Its said that quran was revealed to muhammad by Gabriel. Muhammad was the only middle man. Its obvious from reading quran that he stole from the tanakh, talmud, Gospels, gnostics and even hindu sources and when doing so he did it in a very ignorant fashion. The revelations dont carry near the layers of revelation and often show contradictions and misundertsnading of the cultures and beliefs from which muhammad stole from. He hijacks names of the prophets and injects them in his quran thus Disrespecting the prophets. Then we are told that allah sent the prophets in vain for their message was lost and that allah corrected himself by sending a sexist, perverted, war mongering, bastard to trust in that tells us that allah is the greatest of decievers, not to ask questions, and who struggled to say anything spiritual.

Why were early muslims burning qurans? http://youtu.be/91AM7665cbo

TEXT NOTES of vids

Muslims use Surah 15:9 to claim quran is unchanged
"We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption). "
Inna nahnu nazzalna alththikrawa-inna lahu lahafithoona


21:105 Adh-Dhikr (a name of of book/ translated as Torah )
" And indeed We have written in Az-Zabur (Psalms) after Adh-Dhikr (Torah) that My righteous servants shall inherit the land."
Or
"Walaqad katabna fee alzzaboori min baAAdi alththikri anna alarda yarithuha AAibadiya alssalihoona "

So they cant say this can only mean the quran. at best they would have to say it could mean every scripture sent down is protected. Yet the quran contridicts the Tanakh, and the Bible instead of confirming.
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What happened to the chapter on breast feeding which was eaten by a goat (lamb).
What about the chapter on stoning to death?
Can a muslim recite these chapters??
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SahihalBukhari (Book- those who wage war amongst the disbelievers) #6401
Clearly states: people may say over time that they cant find the verses on Rajim (Stoning to death) seeing as its not in the Quran so the hadith goes on to give a fatwa

so the quran was destroyed:)
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Hadith #2308 book of Kanez al Omal
Quran is a thousand thousand letter and seven thousand letter and who say them Allah will give him for each letter two female whore in heaven./ (1 Million 1,027 ,000 letters) which is nowhere near the size of Quran.
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Yet notice that the dead sea scrolls confirm portions of Jewish scriptures.
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According to Mohammed’s wife ‘Aisha, one Sura had 200 verses. By ‘Uthman’s time, it only had 73. One can read this in the book Islam p.191ff by the skeptic Guillaume.

Sura 4:46 (To change words from their place is to alter the Quran)
The earliest verse that was revealed in not placed first in the quran so again someone played with it.
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the message came down in 7 letters 6 of which were destroyed by man

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sahih al muslim 2286 (2 Chapters missing cause they were forgotten)

Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir, vol2 p 444 (reading todays Quran is to be decieved)

Jami At-Tirmidhi 3104 (avoid coping and reading the deceptive version of Quran today)

Sunan Ibn Majah 1944 verses of stoning and breastfeeding were eaten by a goat (lamb)

Sahih AlBukhari 6.61.510 (some copies of Quran ordered to be burnt)
Volume 6, Book 61, Number 510:

Isa is NOT Jesus. muhammad has taken from many sources of faith. muhammad makes the characters of the Tanakh and the N.T. into completely different characters. The qur’an claims Isa is the one Christians know as Jesus The Christ, yet muhammad claimed to be exhauted above him in the heavens just like the ideology of Lucifer in the Tanakh. islam claims Christ did not pay the price on the cross. muslims are told they should study Isa’s teachings and obey them(Surah 3:48-49; 5:46). What does the Qur’an say about Isa?
Allah sent Isa, supporting Him with the Holy Spirit (Surah 2:87)
Allah exalted Isa (Surah 2:253)
Isa was righteous and sinless (Surah 3:46; 6:85; 19:19)
Isa was raised from the dead (Surah 19:33-34)
Allah commanded Isa to establish a religion (Surah 42:13)
Isa ascended into heaven (Surah 4:157-158) yet muhammad went to the seventh and Christ is noted in a much lower level.

Isa’s teachings were recorded by His disciples in the Injeel (Gospel). Surah 5:111 states that the disciples were inspired by Allah to believe in Isa and His message (Yet quran says allah made it seem to them that Christ had died on the cross that it wasnt him though) The quran completely conridicts the Bible and they are both anti the other. As Allah’s helpers (Surah 61:6, 14), Isa’s disciples would have accurately recorded His teaching.

The Qur’an instructs Muslims to uphold and obey both the Torah and the Gospels (Surah 5:44-48).

muhammad was nothing more than a perverted, self proclaimed prophet and his fruits and ideologies were wicked.

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When Ibn Umar—son of the second Muslim caliph—heard people declaring that they knew the entire Qur’an, he said to them: “Let none of you say, ‘I have learned the whole of the Koran,’ for how does he know what the whole of it is, when much of it has disappeared? Let him rather say, ‘I have learned what is extant thereof.

One of Muhammad’s companions, Abu Musa, said that the early Muslims forgot two surahs (chapters) due to laziness:
Abu Musa al-Ash’ari sent for the reciters of Basra. They came to him and they were three hundred in number. They recited the Qur’an and he said: You are the best among the inhabitants of Basra, for you are the reciters among them. So continue to recite it. (But bear in mind) that your reciting for a long time may not harden your hearts as were hardened the hearts of those before you. We used to recite a surah which resembled in length and severity to (Surah) Bara’at. I have, however, forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember out of it: “If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust.” And we used to recite a surah which resembled one of the surahs of Musabbihat, and I have forgotten it

Muhammad’s wife Aisha said that roughly two-thirds of Surah 33 was lost:
A’isha . . . said, “Surat al-Ahzab (xxxiii) used to be recited in the time of the Prophet with two hundred verses, but when Uthman wrote out the codices he was unable to procure more of it than there is in it today [i.e. 73 verses]

It was narrated that Aishah said: “The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it.”

Incomplete verses?
Surah 33:6 declares that “The Prophet is closer to the Believers than their own selves, and his wives are their mothers.” However, Ubayy ibn Ka’b and other early Muslims held that a phrase (“and he is a father of them”) is missing from this verse. Even the great translator Yusuf Ali admits this in his commentary. Ali writes: “In some Qira’ahs, like that of Ubayy ibn Ka’ab, occur also the words ‘and he is a father of them,’ which imply his spiritual relationship and connection with the words ‘and his wives are their mothers.

(The first verse revealed is not first verse in quran and the standard is to change the place of a verse is to pervert the source. And islam claims the first 5 verses of Al Alaq /96th Surah) are te first 5 revealed to Muhammad so them being the 96th surah would be perversion, not to mention would also break down standard of replacing something with something better/ abrogation)

mohammad died death of false prophet (LD)

Back up mirror of video http://youtu.be/IHdG9jy_9YQ

According to islamic sources muhammad died the death of a false prophet.
The quran only has one messenger (muhammad) thus islam follows the ideologies of one man which contradicts the message of the prophetS (Word of God). This one self proclaimed "prophet" claims to speak for the tawhid (oneness of allah) and thus shares allah's preferred method of dealing with (killing) a false prophet. (cutting his aorta/ life vein/ life artery)

Surah: Al-Ahqaf (The Sure Truth) 69.44-46(Al-Haaqqa)

وَلَوۡ تَقَوَّلَ عَلَيۡنَا بَعۡضَ ٱلۡأَقَاوِيلِ (٤٤) لَأَخَذۡنَا مِنۡهُ بِٱلۡيَمِينِ (٤٥) ثُمَّ لَقَطَعۡنَا مِنۡهُ ٱلۡوَتِينَ (٤٦)

(My transliteration) If one were to create (make up) revelations "concerning us" (on the behalf of allah/ tawhid) then "we" (The Tawhid - oneness of allah) would cut off his aorta (life artery in other translations).

Muslim Translations:
* /Hilali Khan/ And if he (muhammad) had forged a false saying concerning us we surely should have seized him by his right hand (or with power & might) and then certainly should have CUT OFF HIS LIFE ARTERY (Aorta)
* /Picktall/ And if he had invented false sayings concerning Us. We assuredly had taken him by the right hand and then severed his life artery.
* /Dawood/ Had he invented lies concerning Us, We would have seized him by the right hand and severed his hearts vien.
*/Shakir/ And if he had fabricated against us some of the sayings, we would certainly have seized him by the right hand then We would certainly have cut off his aorta.
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* /Tafsir Jalalayn/ And had he namely, the prophet, fabricated any lies Against Us, by communicating from Us that which We have NOT said, We would have assuredly seized him, we would have exacted vengance against him as punishment, by the Right Hand, by (Our) strength & power; then We would have assuredly severed his life artery, the aorta of the heart, a vien that connects with it and which if severed results in that persons death.
This was a mecan surah (69) meaning muhammad was reciting it for years saying that its allah's intent to cut the aorta of false prophets of the oneness of allah.

_________How did muhammad die?___________

/Sahih al-Bukhari 2617/ A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the "prophet" who ate it. She was brought to "the prophet" and was asked, "Shall we kill her?" He said "no" Anas added: "I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of allah's messenger.
/Sahih Muslim/ A Jewess came to allah's messenger with poisoned mutton and he took of what had been brought to him (When the effects of the poison were felt by him) he called for her and asked her about that, where upon she said: I had determined to kill you. There he said "allah will never give you the power to do it". LOL (Book of Salutations and Greetings 5430)

(muhammad DID die of the poison as the islamic sources make very clear. This is further evidence muhammad didnt know the will of the Almighty, Also note that muhammad said "allah will never give you the POWER. Surah 69 says the aorta of the false prophet would be cut by the POWer of the oneness of allah.)

/Ibn Sa'd p252/ The apostel of allah sent for Zaynab Bint al-Harith and said to her: What induced you to do what you have done? She replied: You have done to my people what you have done. You killed my father, my uncle, and my husband, so I said to myself: If you are a Prophet the foreleg will inform you and others have said If you are a king, we will get rid of you.
(muhammad's violence towards others came back to haunt him. She said if he where a prophet then the food would warn him, if not it would kill him)

/Sahih al-Bukhari 4428/ The "prophet" in his aliment in which he died used to say O Aishah I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if MY AORTA IS BEING CUT FROM THAT POISON.
(hmm a self procalimed prophet's aorta being cut???)


/Sunan Dawud 4498/ A Jewess presented [muhammad] at Khaibar a roasted sheep, which she poisoned. The apostel of allah ate of it & the people also ate. He then said lift your hands (from eating) for it (the foreleg) has informed me that it was poisoned. Bishr b al-Bara b Miror al Ansari died. So he (the "prophet") sent for the Jewess (and said to her) What motivated you to do the work you have done? she said: If you were a prophet, it would not harm you: but if you were a king I would rid the people of you. The apostel of allah then ordered reguarding her and she was killed. He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaibar. This is the time when it HAS CUT OFF MY AORTA.
(hmm a cut aorta, where have we heard this concept before? I have no idea why it says in Sahih al-Bukhari 2617 (^above) that the prophet said "no" when asked if she should be killed, and here it says he ordered her to be killed- Anyway)

/Ibn Sa'd pg.252-253/ The apostle of allah took the foreleg, a peice of which he put into his mouth.Bishr ibn al Bara took another bone and put it into his mouth. When the apostelof allah ate one morsel of it Bishr ate his and other people also ate from it. Then the apostle of allah said Hold back your hands. Because this foreleg has informed me that it is poisoned. There upon Bishr said by him who ate hath made you great. I discovered it from the morsel I took. Nothing prevented me from spitting it out but the idea that I did not like to make your food unrelishing. When you had eaten what was in your mouth I did not like to save my life after yours, and I also thought you would not have eaten it if there was something wrong. Bishr did not rise from his seat but his color changed to that of taylsan ( a green cloth)

(Bishr ibn al Bara died cause he trusted muhammad)

/Sunan Abu Dawud 4449/ Umm Bishr said to "the prophet" during the sickness of which he died: What do you think about your illness, apostel of allah? I do not think about illness of my son except the poison sheep of which he had eaten with you at Khaibar. The Prophet said And I do not think about my illness except that. This is the time when it cut off my aorta.

/Al-Tabari p124/ The "messenger" of God said during the illness from which he died- the mother of Bishr b al-Bara had Come in to visit him- Umm Bishr, at this very moment I feel my aorta being severed because of the food I ate with your son at Khaybar.

/Sunan Ibn Majah 1622/ Aisha said: I never saw anyone suffer more pain than the messenger of allah.

/Sahih al Bukhari 2588/ Aisha said when the "prophet" became sick and his condition became serious, he requested his wives to allow him to be treated in my home, and they allowed him.He came came out leaning on two men while his feet were dragging on the ground.


Muhammad felt demon pocessed after recieving "revelation" from "Gabriel" (others exspressed belief he was pocessed as well). He also became so troubled that he was suicidal. http://answering-islam.org/Silas/demons.htm (What other "prophet" felt the Word of God was wicked?)
Muhammad had also given certain "revelations" only to later say that it was the devil that gave those revelations. The night journey (surah 17) is the same ideology of lucifer in Is.14/ Eze.28/ 2 Thess.2

Muhammad mentioned in The Bible?

The Bible DOESNT prophesy the coming of Muhammad, unless you want to mention Deut.18/ 2 Pet.2:1-3 / Matt 24 (which mentions FALSE prophets)or Gal.1:8/ 2 Thess.2:2/ 2 Cor.11:15/ Matt.24:24 (which meantion antichrists) which clearly DO describe muhammad. (Rev.20:10)
Songs 5:16
A pronunciation of a term that doesnt describe muhammad is hardly mention of muhammad coiming to remix the word of G-d and call people to follow his ideology. Songs was written 1000 years before Christ Jesus was born.

The word in question is used elsewhere to describe sweet things, bottles of drink, and endearments between husband and wife. You might as well say "That cake was muhammad", or "Martha, muhammad, can you please bring me a glass of water?"
Machmad (H.4261)
From
H2530; delightful; hence a delight, that is, object of affection or desire: - beloved, desire, goodly, lovely, pleasant (thing).

Antichrist/ Al Mahdi (LD)

Biblical antichrist (evil figure in Christianity) and /muslim mahdi ("good" figure in islamic eyes) same discription:

1) anti/mahdi comes with observation- 2 Thess 2:3/Rev.12:9/ (Rev.9:1)... more details/documentation in discription Of the observation!
*) Christ comes WITHOUT observation- Lk.17:20,21,22,23,24,25,26/ Rev.22:7/ Matt.24:36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44 (1 Cor.15:52/ Amos5:18/ Matt.25:1,2,3,4,5,,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13/ Lk.12:40)...
2) anti/mahdi comes in peacefully and prosperously- * 1 Thess.5:3/ 2 Cor.11:14/ Dan.8:23,24,25/ Dan.11:21,22,23,24,25,32
*) Christ comes NOT to send peace Matt.10:34 but rather a sword (sword of truth/justice)
3) anti/mahdi sets up 7yr Peace treaty- Dan.9:27
4) anti/mahdi sets/gathers up a huge army in the east (Iraq)- Rev.16:12,13,14,15,16/ Rev.9:14,15,16 (Joel 1:6)
(anti/mahdi breaks his covenant/ changes laws and times- Dan.9:27 (Mk.13:20 Shortened) Dan.7:25
mahdi institutes sharia law according to islam)
5) anti/mahdi comes against Israel- (stands in holy place)/ Rev.12:17/ Matt.24:9/ Eze.38
6) anti/mahdi sucsessful at war in general /Not against Spiritual Israel- Rev.13:4
7) anti/mahdi stands in Jerusalem (holy place/temple) claiming to be worthy of reverance- Mk.13:14/ Matt.24:15/ 2 Thess.2:4/ Dan.9:25,26,27/...
8) anti/mahdi convince all those OF the world (works wonders/charisma). Rev.13:3,4,8 ....(Dan.11:32)
The role of this wicked one will easily decieve those embraceing traditions of men, in "Christian", "Jewish" and "muslim" circles of ideology, for they in fact are waiting for him and already bare the Mark Of The Beast TODAY. LK.17:21!!!

For islamic documentation of these claims of islam I suggest:
http://al-mahdi.atspace.com/al-mahdi.html
Note: islam says Isa (quranic perVersion of Jesus) is partner of "mahdi" these are to postive messianic figures in islam. The ideology is as follows the "Dajjal" represents a "evil" forces verses "al mahdi" and "isa" represent a "good" force /muslims claim this "isa" is our Jesus but their story of Isa is not that of Christ other than being born of a virgin named Mary. So makes you wonder what this force they consider evil is when they are embraceing evil as good themselves! Its a force that disturbes their agendas much like we know the two witnesses will be seen as a bother to those Of the world.
Appearance of this one- sermon
___________RANT:_____________

Muslims follow One Man (muhammad) for the source of islam (quran) is based off one mans ideology/claimed communication with an angel (Gal.1:7-8). a self proclaimed prophet. in islam allah is the best deciever and deception (al taqiyya) is encouraged. In Christianity Satan is the father of all lies (Jn.8:44). islam embraces a rule of abrogation by order of muhammad which says that later verses that contradict earlier verses abrogate them (replace). In this same order islam is to be taught and learned. so they always teach non muslims abrogated islam to start with which is "peaceful" which is abrogated with defensive which is abrogated with jihad. Muta (legal prostitution) is embraced within some sects. Adultry is supported (4 wives). Pedophilia is supported. women are given half the value of a man in witnessing thus coming forth about being raped is meaningless, which in effect enables rape... the list goes on and on
muhammad was illiterate by confession and it shows in his perversion of many worldly faiths when he stole from them to form his own source of faith. also his lack of spiritual understanding shows as he physically seeks to describe the spirit realm (heaven) with materialistic and lustful mind set.
Be concerned for the ignorant that follow this wicked ideology for muslims are the 1st victims of islam.

---> Kings of The East/ Locust army <----
___________Islamic sects______________

We know that the view of Al Mahdi differs between the different sects of islam (sunni and shia,...)
SUNNI
The stance of Sunni sect of islam pertaining to the coming of al mahdi




SHIA
Here are some of the shia views (propaganda) of those that make way for the "al mahdi". Note that the shia view is held within the current Irainian (Syrian, Lebannon) leadership. Iran being a major player in the battle of gog and magog.

islam racist against BLACKs? (LD)

How do you feel about islams view of the black race ? ? ?

Do You consider islam to be Racist ?

Do You recognize the seteriotypes and labels used by mohammad ?
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Mishkat, v. iii, p. 117
"Abu Darda reported that the Holy Prophet said: Allah created Adam when he created him (sic). Then He stroke (sic) his right shoulder and took out a white race as if they were seeds, and He stroke (sic) his left shoulder and took out a black race as if they were coals. Then He said to those who were in his right side: Towards paradise and I don't care. He said to those who were on his left shoulder: Towards Hell and I don't care. - Ahmad"

HaSatan is black?

Ishaq: 243 "I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!' He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks…. Allah sent down concerning him: ‘To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful punishment."

«يُخَرِّبُ الْكَعْبَةَ ذُو السُّوَيْقَتَيْنِ مِنَ الْحَبَشَةِ وَيَسْلُبُهَا حِلْيَتَهَا وَيُجَرِّدُهَا مِنْ كِسْوَتِهَا، وَلَكَأَنِّي أَنْظُرُ إِلَيْهِ أُصَيْلِعَ وَ أُفَيْدِعَ يَضْرِبُ عَلَيْهَا بِمِسْحَاتِهِ وَمِعْوَلِه»

(Dhus-Sawiqatayn from Ethiopia will destroy the Ka`bah and will loot its adornments and cover. It is as if I see him now: bald, with thin legs striking the Ka`bah with his ax.) Tafsir Ibn Kathir
[Surah 9:61] "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, ‘If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's. (Black men have hearts grosser than a donkey's?)


Arabic
Today in Saudi Arabia the heart of Islam, the common word for "black" is "Abd" meaning slave.

Islam created a inslt to blacks when their sources claim that Ham's descendants were black due to a curse of their father. This is One place that muhammad shows his ignorance of what earlier scriptures put forth. These theories have made it into other religious circles when people ask if the black race is due to a curse. This is an INSULT to all blacks everywhere.


Tabari II:21 (Decendants of Noah)
"Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham's descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem's, the latter would enslave them." (Arabs to enslave Africans)

This is an obvious perversion of Gen.9:25-27. (Curse of Canaan)
Not only is this clear cut Racisim but is an ignorant way of speaking on the orgin of race which show Muhammad doesn't even understand creation. (sleeping with your fathers wife (mother) is a flithy sin but not the beginning or reason for the black race)

mohammad owned black slaves, he traded 2 black slaves for one non-black slave that had pledged allegiance.

Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported: There came a slave and pledged allegiance to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man) - Sahih Muslim 10:3901

Let negro slave perish, let no help come to him if he be pierced by thorne
* If he asks for anything it shall not be granted if he needs intercession to get to paradise his intercession will be denied - Bukhari Vol.4 Book 52 #137
(Surah 39:60)
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Muhammad calls (labels) Eithiopians (blacks) "rasin heads"
Sahih Al Bukhari Vol.1 Book 11 #662

Notice the different hadiths:
In Hadith (Sahih Moslem) Mohammed is quoted as saying, "you must obey the Imam (leader) even if he was a pug-nosed slave" (Here the translation for black is slave).
<Keep in mind Muslims qualify the Bukhari hadith as the devine words of the prophet so its obvious I am pointing out the racists intentions within the different scolars instead of my own!
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Allah's Apostle said, "You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin."
<Here we see BOTH in such a insulting way as to support that blacks are to be slaves
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet said, "Listen and obey (your chief) even if an Ethiopian whose head is like a raisin were made your chief."

"Blacks will steal when hungry; when cloy (full) they are promiscuous" - Sahih Muslim

(Ibn Musa al-Yahsubi, Qadi ‘Iyad, p.375)
Ahmad ibn Abi Sulayman, the companion of Sahnun said, “Anyone who says that the Prophet was black should be killed."

Sahih Al Bukhary "while we were sitting with the Prophet, a man came and said, 'who amongst you is Mohammed?' We replied, 'this white man reclining on his arm…" (Why was color the focuss, instead of being Arab?)

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black women
dreams of black women were a bad sign (of coming sickness)

Narrated 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "I saw (in a dream) a black woman with unkempt hair going out of Medina and settling at Mahai'a, i.e., Al-Juhfa. I interpreted that as a symbol of epidemic of Medina being transferred to that place (Al-Juhfa)." - Sahih Bukhari 9:87:161-163

"If (all types of men) are taken, from the first, and one placed after another, like the Negro from Zanzibar, in the Southern-most countries, the Negro does not differ from an animal in anything except the fact that his hands have been lifted from the earth -in no other peculiarity or property - except for what God wished. Many have seen that the ape is more capable of being trained than the Negro, and more intelligent."- Nasir al-Din al-Tusi, Shia Muslim Scholar (1201-74, Tasawwurat /Rawdat al-Taslim

black is a negative in islam, not only black people. A black dog perverts muslim prayers and blocks them from allah and considered a devil. So you should start over if in the presence of a black dog just as if a woman was in front of you during prayer.
http://youtu.be/pJhSejBDTPI

Hazart Bilal (Ibn Rabah) was a Eithiopian slave (black). How do you compare that to the comments I quoted about such a person (* above)? I'm not claiming the sources say blacks cant be muslim! My questions were:
How do you feel about islams view of the black race ? ? ?
Do You consider islam to be Racist ?
(please support your comments with islamic texts whenever possible)
Do You recognize the seteriotypes and labels used by mohammad ?

Itend to compare this to the quotes i posted above about such a person.
Allow me to reflect on ONE of those quotes again!

"You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin."

muhammad said to Bilal, "You have been granted precedence in heaven" which would perhaps lead some to compare this to Bukhari Vol.4 Book 52 #137

compare that to the conversation between Bilal and mohammad:
"Muhammad PBUH saw Hazrat Bilal (RA) was smiling at him and Pro Muhammad PBUH asked :" O my beloved companion , Bilal (RA) , why are you smiling , is that because I had given you a high post or muslims are now richer or you are happy and statisfied with your situations now ? "
Bilal reply " No NO not for that reasons ... I am happy because Hidayat or guidances was not given and controlled by you Prophet of Allah , instead Allah the one holds that Hidayat and guided whom he love and deserved for Hidayat , and gave him hidayat , IF you prophet Of Allah had given you the authority of Hidayats , then I would the last person be given Hidayat , you would had given it to all your uncles , tantes , nephews , nieces and your whole clans before you finally come to me , but thanks Allah , allah is the one who controls it and Allah had given me hidayats before the whole of Arabia and your clans , I am the first few and previliaged to be among those who believed through yourself Prophet of Allah , that is the reason , I am statisfied and pleases and smiles O prophets of Allah ".

Can you feel the love in the air?

http://youtu.be/l1j8D1j9mEc <----------Evidence