How can a muslims say The Word (bible and Tanakh) of the Jews and Christians is altered and not inspired when their quran says it IS inspired?
Quran declares the Bible to be a true revelation of God and demands faith in the Bible. Sura 2:40-42,126,136,285; 3:3,71,93; 4:47,136; 5:47-51, 69,71-72; 6:91; 10:37,94; 21:7; 29:45,46; 35:31; 46:11
So when they say our sources are altered they are saying the Quran is garbage!
Sadly muslims follow one man('s ideology). Its said that quran was revealed to muhammad by Gabriel. Muhammad was the only middle man. Its obvious from reading quran that he stole from the tanakh, talmud, Gospels, gnostics and even hindu sources and when doing so he did it in a very ignorant fashion. The revelations dont carry near the layers of revelation and often show contradictions and misundertsnading of the cultures and beliefs from which muhammad stole from. He hijacks names of the prophets and injects them in his quran thus Disrespecting the prophets. Then we are told that allah sent the prophets in vain for their message was lost and that allah corrected himself by sending a sexist, perverted, war mongering, bastard to trust in that tells us that allah is the greatest of decievers, not to ask questions, and who struggled to say anything spiritual.
Why were early muslims burning qurans? http://youtu.be/91AM7665cbo
TEXT NOTES of vids
Muslims use Surah 15:9 to claim quran is unchanged
"We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption). "
Inna nahnu nazzalna alththikrawa-inna lahu lahafithoona
21:105 Adh-Dhikr (a name of of book/ translated as Torah )
" And indeed We have written in Az-Zabur (Psalms) after Adh-Dhikr (Torah) that My righteous servants shall inherit the land."
Or
"Walaqad katabna fee alzzaboori min baAAdi alththikri anna alarda yarithuha AAibadiya alssalihoona "
So they cant say this can only mean the quran. at best they would have to say it could mean every scripture sent down is protected. Yet the quran contridicts the Tanakh, and the Bible instead of confirming.
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What happened to the chapter on breast feeding which was eaten by a goat (lamb).
What about the chapter on stoning to death?
Can a muslim recite these chapters??
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SahihalBukhari (Book- those who wage war amongst the disbelievers) #6401
Clearly states: people may say over time that they cant find the verses on Rajim (Stoning to death) seeing as its not in the Quran so the hadith goes on to give a fatwa
so the quran was destroyed:)
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Hadith #2308 book of Kanez al Omal
Quran is a thousand thousand letter and seven thousand letter and who say them Allah will give him for each letter two female whore in heaven./ (1 Million 1,027 ,000 letters) which is nowhere near the size of Quran.
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Yet notice that the dead sea scrolls confirm portions of Jewish scriptures.
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According to Mohammed’s wife ‘Aisha, one Sura had 200 verses. By ‘Uthman’s time, it only had 73. One can read this in the book Islam p.191ff by the skeptic Guillaume.
Sura 4:46 (To change words from their place is to alter the Quran)
The earliest verse that was revealed in not placed first in the quran so again someone played with it.
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the message came down in 7 letters 6 of which were destroyed by man
Muslims use Surah 15:9 to claim quran is unchanged
"We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption). "
Inna nahnu nazzalna alththikrawa-inna lahu lahafithoona
21:105 Adh-Dhikr (a name of of book/ translated as Torah )
" And indeed We have written in Az-Zabur (Psalms) after Adh-Dhikr (Torah) that My righteous servants shall inherit the land."
Or
"Walaqad katabna fee alzzaboori min baAAdi alththikri anna alarda yarithuha AAibadiya alssalihoona "
So they cant say this can only mean the quran. at best they would have to say it could mean every scripture sent down is protected. Yet the quran contridicts the Tanakh, and the Bible instead of confirming.
_____________
What happened to the chapter on breast feeding which was eaten by a goat (lamb).
What about the chapter on stoning to death?
Can a muslim recite these chapters??
__________
SahihalBukhari (Book- those who wage war amongst the disbelievers) #6401
Clearly states: people may say over time that they cant find the verses on Rajim (Stoning to death) seeing as its not in the Quran so the hadith goes on to give a fatwa
so the quran was destroyed:)
____________
Hadith #2308 book of Kanez al Omal
Quran is a thousand thousand letter and seven thousand letter and who say them Allah will give him for each letter two female whore in heaven./ (1 Million 1,027 ,000 letters) which is nowhere near the size of Quran.
____________
Yet notice that the dead sea scrolls confirm portions of Jewish scriptures.
_____________
According to Mohammed’s wife ‘Aisha, one Sura had 200 verses. By ‘Uthman’s time, it only had 73. One can read this in the book Islam p.191ff by the skeptic Guillaume.
Sura 4:46 (To change words from their place is to alter the Quran)
The earliest verse that was revealed in not placed first in the quran so again someone played with it.
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the message came down in 7 letters 6 of which were destroyed by man
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sahih al muslim 2286 (2 Chapters missing cause they were forgotten)
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir, vol2 p 444 (reading todays Quran is to be decieved)
Jami At-Tirmidhi 3104 (avoid coping and reading the deceptive version of Quran today)
Sunan Ibn Majah 1944 verses of stoning and breastfeeding were eaten by a goat (lamb)
Sahih AlBukhari 6.61.510 (some copies of Quran ordered to be burnt)
Volume 6, Book 61, Number 510:
Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir, vol2 p 444 (reading todays Quran is to be decieved)
Jami At-Tirmidhi 3104 (avoid coping and reading the deceptive version of Quran today)
Sunan Ibn Majah 1944 verses of stoning and breastfeeding were eaten by a goat (lamb)
Sahih AlBukhari 6.61.510 (some copies of Quran ordered to be burnt)
Volume 6, Book 61, Number 510:
Isa is NOT Jesus. muhammad has taken from many sources of faith. muhammad makes the characters of the Tanakh and the N.T. into completely different characters. The qur’an claims Isa is the one Christians know as Jesus The Christ, yet muhammad claimed to be exhauted above him in the heavens just like the ideology of Lucifer in the Tanakh. islam claims Christ did not pay the price on the cross. muslims are told they should study Isa’s teachings and obey them(Surah 3:48-49; 5:46). What does the Qur’an say about Isa?
Allah sent Isa, supporting Him with the Holy Spirit (Surah 2:87)
Allah exalted Isa (Surah 2:253)
Isa was righteous and sinless (Surah 3:46; 6:85; 19:19)
Isa was raised from the dead (Surah 19:33-34)
Allah commanded Isa to establish a religion (Surah 42:13)
Isa ascended into heaven (Surah 4:157-158) yet muhammad went to the seventh and Christ is noted in a much lower level.
Isa’s teachings were recorded by His disciples in the Injeel (Gospel). Surah 5:111 states that the disciples were inspired by Allah to believe in Isa and His message (Yet quran says allah made it seem to them that Christ had died on the cross that it wasnt him though) The quran completely conridicts the Bible and they are both anti the other. As Allah’s helpers (Surah 61:6, 14), Isa’s disciples would have accurately recorded His teaching.
The Qur’an instructs Muslims to uphold and obey both the Torah and the Gospels (Surah 5:44-48).
muhammad was nothing more than a perverted, self proclaimed prophet and his fruits and ideologies were wicked.
Allah sent Isa, supporting Him with the Holy Spirit (Surah 2:87)
Allah exalted Isa (Surah 2:253)
Isa was righteous and sinless (Surah 3:46; 6:85; 19:19)
Isa was raised from the dead (Surah 19:33-34)
Allah commanded Isa to establish a religion (Surah 42:13)
Isa ascended into heaven (Surah 4:157-158) yet muhammad went to the seventh and Christ is noted in a much lower level.
Isa’s teachings were recorded by His disciples in the Injeel (Gospel). Surah 5:111 states that the disciples were inspired by Allah to believe in Isa and His message (Yet quran says allah made it seem to them that Christ had died on the cross that it wasnt him though) The quran completely conridicts the Bible and they are both anti the other. As Allah’s helpers (Surah 61:6, 14), Isa’s disciples would have accurately recorded His teaching.
The Qur’an instructs Muslims to uphold and obey both the Torah and the Gospels (Surah 5:44-48).
muhammad was nothing more than a perverted, self proclaimed prophet and his fruits and ideologies were wicked.
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When Ibn Umar—son of the second Muslim caliph—heard people declaring that they knew the entire Qur’an, he said to them: “Let none of you say, ‘I have learned the whole of the Koran,’ for how does he know what the whole of it is, when much of it has disappeared? Let him rather say, ‘I have learned what is extant thereof.One of Muhammad’s companions, Abu Musa, said that the early Muslims forgot two surahs (chapters) due to laziness:
Abu Musa al-Ash’ari sent for the reciters of Basra. They came to him and they were three hundred in number. They recited the Qur’an and he said: You are the best among the inhabitants of Basra, for you are the reciters among them. So continue to recite it. (But bear in mind) that your reciting for a long time may not harden your hearts as were hardened the hearts of those before you. We used to recite a surah which resembled in length and severity to (Surah) Bara’at. I have, however, forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember out of it: “If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust.” And we used to recite a surah which resembled one of the surahs of Musabbihat, and I have forgotten it
Muhammad’s wife Aisha said that roughly two-thirds of Surah 33 was lost:
A’isha . . . said, “Surat al-Ahzab (xxxiii) used to be recited in the time of the Prophet with two hundred verses, but when Uthman wrote out the codices he was unable to procure more of it than there is in it today [i.e. 73 verses]
It was narrated that Aishah said: “The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it.”
Incomplete verses?
Surah 33:6 declares that “The Prophet is closer to the Believers than their own selves, and his wives are their mothers.” However, Ubayy ibn Ka’b and other early Muslims held that a phrase (“and he is a father of them”) is missing from this verse. Even the great translator Yusuf Ali admits this in his commentary. Ali writes: “In some Qira’ahs, like that of Ubayy ibn Ka’ab, occur also the words ‘and he is a father of them,’ which imply his spiritual relationship and connection with the words ‘and his wives are their mothers.
(The first verse revealed is not first verse in quran and the standard is to change the place of a verse is to pervert the source. And islam claims the first 5 verses of Al Alaq /96th Surah) are te first 5 revealed to Muhammad so them being the 96th surah would be perversion, not to mention would also break down standard of replacing something with something better/ abrogation)
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